Curse

LightningHell · Jan 24, 2008, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Grenth probably should get a duration at least on par with Dwayna and Melandru - even then I don't think I'd use it, but it at least wouldn't be such a laughing stock.

Enchantment removal is rarely a big deal, either in PvE or PvP (where people that stack enchantments on themselves are stupid anyway).

Please don't talk about PvP, but in PvE I guess you're right.

Chael · Jan 25, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Is the holy damage granted by AoB armor-ignoring?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 25, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

last I checked holy dmg ignored armor.

But still its not worth AOB is only worth running now adays and even then its not the best

So I rate aob

-599 out of 10

also I would rather bring Balths pendulem now rather than AoB into a fight

Stormlord Alex · Jan 25, 2008, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

last I checked holy dmg ignored armor.

Holy damage dealt directly by skills - say, from Signet of Judgment or Banish - ignores armour.
Holy damage from attacks - whether from monk wands or converted damage types from AoB or Judges' Insight - does not ignore armour.

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 25, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

ok make my new rating of aob
--234053

NamelessBeauty · Jan 30, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Guys -,-"

- The 33% running speed is nice to chase a target which is nice in PvP but crap in PvE unless you are talking about excaping.
- The Holy dmg make it so the Ele dont have advantage of + armor vs Elemental and War dont have advantage of + armor vs Physical.
- +40 Armor so you can be a tank!

Ok now talking about why this skill is so crappy. It's because most of the bonuses it gives is not relavant.

- Holy dmg: Can be useful but Judge's Insight is much better in PvP. In PvE, no need to talk, melee was never a good thing in PvE (I talk about HM and such.)
- +40 Armor: To be honest why need this crap? If a War can tank better?
- 33% Speed Boost: A stance will be better for this, waste an elite just to run is stupid in PvP. In PvE you don't need to run, just use Essence of Celerity will do more than enough.

Why noobs run it a lot? Because they need to run fast, kill fast for missions? Esp without using a brain?

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 30, 2008, 07:33 PM // 19:33

why do they run it so much

CAUZZZ ITZZ LOOKKZZZZ COOL!

also its usually the +40 armor buff that they like.

Coloneh · Jan 30, 2008, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

Guys -,-"

- The 33% running speed is nice to chase a target which is nice in PvP but crap in PvE unless you are talking about excaping.
- The Holy dmg make it so the Ele dont have advantage of + armor vs Elemental and War dont have advantage of + armor vs Physical.
- +40 Armor so you can be a tank!

Ok now talking about why this skill is so crappy. It's because most of the bonuses it gives is not relavant.

- Holy dmg: Can be useful but Judge's Insight is much better in PvP. In PvE, no need to talk, melee was never a good thing in PvE (I talk about HM and such.)
- +40 Armor: To be honest why need this crap? If a War can tank better?
- 33% Speed Boost: A stance will be better for this, waste an elite just to run is stupid in PvP. In PvE you don't need to run, just use Essence of Celerity will do more than enough.

Why noobs run it a lot? Because they need to run fast, kill fast for missions? Esp without using a brain?

uninstall now

kthxbai

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 30, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

pile of rubbish

umm ya please un install now

and would you be speaking from doing the same thing yourself as a dervish?

~ Dan ~ · Jan 30, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

umm ya please un install now

and would you be speaking from doing the same thing yourself as a dervish?

K, when you agree with someone, you generally don't repeat what they said and make yourself look like a fool. Observe:

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

uninstall now

kthxbai

QFT.

Coloneh · Jan 30, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29

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Pyro maniac · Jan 30, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

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Originally Posted by dan-the-noob

K, when you agree with someone, you generally don't repeat what they said and make yourself look like a fool. Observe:

QFT.

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Splitisoda · Jan 30, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

Personally, I still use AoB. I have my own rights to use it

Sir Pandra Pierva · Jan 30, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33

umm could someone please explain to me why i was agreeing with the person?....

Coloneh · Jan 30, 2008, 09:38 PM // 21:38

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Originally Posted by Sir Pandra Pierva

umm could someone please explain to me why i was agreeing with the person?....

you werent agreeing with the person. you were agreeing with me, and saying the same thing.

IllusiveMind · Jan 30, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

I use AoB...

...for farming UW...

and that's it...

Marverick · Jan 30, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26

They should just drop the armor thing entirely on AoB.

Make it a 33% IAS and speed boost. Either that or give a 20% armor penetration and Holy Damage like Judge's Insight.

Coloneh · Jan 30, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by IllusiveMind

I use AoB...

...for farming UW...

and that's it...

zealous vow is better

Bowstring Badass · Jan 30, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38

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Originally Posted by Marverick

They should just drop the armor thing entirely on AoB.

Make it a 33% IAS and speed boost. Either that or give a 20% armor penetration and Holy Damage like Judge's Insight.

Or just drop the speed buff make it a 33% IAS with 20% armor penetration.

X Black Chaos X · Jan 31, 2008, 12:43 AM // 00:43

when i PvE on my dervish i use diffrent avatars for diffrent areas. That way you can always have an advantage no matter where you go. I farm Plains of Jahrai HM (lol yes you can laugh) and i use dwayna for survival purposes(its really effective against the plants and stormseeds)